How Fast Does A Crf80f Go
- #1
Thinking about getting a bike for our 9 year old. He is tall for his age.
His only riding experience so far is on a 50 (auto clutch).
Experiences/advice with kids/size CRF 80 vs. 70 (with auto clutch) ?
Thanks
J + K
- #3
Wanna' buy Emilys TTR-125 ?
- #6
My son went from the 50 to the 70 just after he turned 7 and went to a Ktm 65 at 8 years old.
I think you just have to be careful not to discourage them.
I would go with the 80.
I agree. My first bike was an Indian 50 at the age of 5. The my dad put my on a 1974 YZ 80 when I was 7. It scared the shit out of me after I had a couple of good crashes. It just had too much power and wheel spin. I still remember running into the side of my dad's 1971 GMC longbed. Then I got discouraged and would make excuses not to ride it.
He sold it after he found out it was too much for me and bought me an XR 75. I loved that bike and that is when I really learned to ride and have fun on a bike. I still remember my 1st time when I climbed Indian hill on that bike. Then he sold it and bought me an old Honda CL 100 which was converted to dirt, had fun on that bike too. Then I went back to 2-stroke when I finally saved up enough allowance to buy a 1981 YZ 125.
Kids grow out of bikes so much that it is the best to just to find a good used bike that is well taken care off.
It is not worth wasting money on a new bike until you know that the bike is going to be kept for many years.
I do not have any kids of my own yet, but I did teach my buddies kid to ride a dirt bike. My buddy and his wife bought their son an XR 50 at the age of 5. By the age of 7 he wanted more power. So I found him a KLX 110 and he started to tear it up
I even think those TTR 125 small wheel versions are another great alternative too the CRF 80. Even the KLX 110 is another great bike for a kid.
- #7
The bottom line is that you know your kid best. You don't want to discourage them but at the same time you need to challenge them so the grow and progress. My first bike was a brand new XR80 I received when I was 10 years old. A year later I went to a CR80 then a year after that I needed a KDX200. My kids go in and out of even wanting to ride. At age 6 and 7 they share a CRF50. Even though they both ride their BMX bikes like maniacs the CRF50 still intimidates them.
- #8
Well here's my 2 cents. I have 3 boys that all starting riding very very young.
We started on a CRF50 went to a CRF70 then sold both to get a KLX110. The CRF80 is a good bike but but if I had to do it again I would skip the CRF70 and go from the 50 to either a KLX110L or CRF100 if he is tall enough.
The new KLX110L is a bit taller and has a 4 speed with a clutch. Not to mention many many bolt on parts.
The CRF 100 is just a bit taller than the 110 as well.
My eldest went from a CRF70 to a TTR125. Not a timid rider but not a full throttle rider either.
My youngest went from the same CRF70 to a KTM65sx. He is a full throttle rider.
My middle went from the same CRF70 to a KLX110 to a TTR125 to a CRF150R.
It all depends on the riders. More timid I would go 4 strokes. Aggressive I would go 2 strokes
Good luck . . .
- #9
What were their ages when they were on the 70?
- #10
My boys were 7-10 on the CRF70. The middle guy had it the longest from 8-9. The youngest had it for maybe 4 months before he was jumping the heck out of it. He was 8 when we got his KTM 65.
It's a good bike but really not much more than the 50 your son is riding now.
For the money you would spend on a CRF 70 I would look at a KLX110. Those bikes are bullet proof and have plenty of power. My kids are all on either CRF150Rs or 250Rs now but still love riding the 110 on the small track at Metcalf. Plus the 110s can be modded and have tons of suspension upgrades compared to the CRF70.
Go test ride a 110 and then a 70 and it will be night and day.
Good luck
Lippa
Done with orange Cast and broken bones!
- #11
my girl did the 50, 70 and now she's learning clutch & 2 strokes together with a Ktm 65sx and she's 11 years old.
Everything depend on your kid's attitude, as Alex and Bob pointed out so well. So, go visit the closest reseller and check how he "feels" on both of them and you go from there...
good luck!
- #12
I think age doesn't matter very much. What matters is first size, strength, and weight. If your kid can sit on the 80 and get the tips of both feet on the ground, and has enough strength to prevent it from falling over with just one leg, the bike is not too big. If he can pick up the bike from the ground (pretend it fell over), it is not too heavy. Once the bike is rolling, balancing skills will keep it steady.
Both my son and our friend learned clutch riding on Honda 80s. They may not be very exciting, but their engines have lots of low-end grunt, so if you are sloppy on the clutch, you don't stall so often, and still get going. My son graduated to a Honda 100 for a few weeks, and from there to a 2-stroke 60cc bike; our friend moved from the Honda 80 directly to a 2-stroke 85, plus a TT-R 125 in the summer (the 2-smoker is red sticker). Fortunately, we were able to borrow the Honda 80 and 100.
For a kid that's on the small size, or is a beginner, I would stay away from a bike that's too heavy (really hard to pick up, and doing technical trails requires too much muscle work and saps their endurance), from a bike that has too much horsepower (too scary if you are careless on the throttle), and from a bike that requires being in the right gear because it has a narrow power band (that means most 2-strokes). Something like the Honda 80 is perfect to learn clutch, throttle and gear coordination.
Unfortunately, the Honda 80 will turn into a very boring bike very quickly. Really too bad that there isn't a place (other than helpful neighbors) where you can borrow or rent them for a few months.
- #13
Thinking about getting a bike for our 9 year old. He is tall for his age.
His only riding experience so far is on a 50 (auto clutch).
Experiences/advice with kids/size CRF 80 vs. 70 (with auto clutch) ?
Thanks
J + K
If he is tall for his age, the 70 is way too small and you may want to go to the CRF100.
My son did the DRZ70 (same size a the CRF50), CRF70, CRF80 to CRF100 path and he is 10-now and on the CRF100. He started riding it when he was 9 and it fits him really well.
The big difference is that the 80 is the start of the clutch bikes and it is a great bike to learn a clutch on because it is not over-powering, but the 100 is also tame and very capable.
Forget the auto-clutch 110's as they are just delaying the transition to a bike with a clutch.
These bikes are all transition bikes and if you are smart and buying used, the cost to change is usually very small and their resale value is very stable.
I think a CRF150 is right around the corner for my son. The seat is about 1.5 inches taller than the 100, but my son is growing like a weed.
We go to Hollister on a regular basis if you want to try the 100.
- #14
If he were my son, I'd buy a TTR125L. It is a better bike than the hondas and he will last longer on it. If he thought he wanted to race MX, then I'd look for a YZ/CR/KX 85.
I've been there and my daughter went from a PW50 to an XR100 when she was 9. She was intimidated by the XR100 for about an hour and then she had it down. She quickly moved to a TTR125L and then a CR80 because she wanted to try racing.
- #15
Klx 110 is about the same size as a Crf 80?
- #16
Klx 110 is about the same size as a Crf 80?
Yes, just make sure your child can flat-foot the bike.
- #17
Our time line goes like this....
Age 5 Adam started on a XR 50 (as every kid should) and was already damn near too big for it. His 3 year old brother Sonny had his eye on it instantly thinkin' "oh yah...this baby is mine"
Before Adam was 7 we stumbled across an very nice XR 70 (as I was buying a big bar kit for Adam's 50) and thought it might be a little big but within a week he was on the 70 and never touched the 50 again (but Sonny was all over it). In less than a year the 70 already looked too small for Adam but it was very user friendly and allowed him to go places a 50 just couldn't go.
Sonny took ownership of the 50 at age five and is full throttle....everywhere. Has no problem keeping up with his big brother.
I'll never forget the day I took 'em both the motherland on a Friday all the way to the Towers. That's a hell of a ride on an XR 50 when you gotta go through snow, mud, ruts, giant hill climbs and boulders. I don't think they realized how perfect the conditions were that day
- #18
Klx 110 is about the same size as a Crf 80?
When we were looking, we saw the KLX110 to be more comparable in size to the CRF70. The both have the smaller 12"/14" wheels and similar seat height. The CRF80 has the bigger 14"/16" wheels. It's seat height is 2" taller than the KLX110 model, so no, it is not the same size.
Even the newer KLX110L model has the smaller wheels and a seat height lower than the CRF80.
The bigger wheels are a huge plus when it comes to stability and going over obstacles.
- #19
Next in line for Adam was a TTR 125 we got a hell of a deal on. Again it seemed slightly big for him but he was able to figure it out pretty quick. He's proud of the fact that it has 5 gears and electric start.
I don't think he can pick it up but that's what I'm for.
The clutch wasn't problem, they all figure it out eventually.
Hopefully the TTR will last him a while.
Sonny is eyeballin that 70, too bad he can't hold it up.
The 70 is definitely a fun bike and easy to ride for most young kids. Good bike to learn the essentials on, anything bigger than that really aught to have a clutch and get that transition over with.
- #20
Cant wait to get back out here again...with my kids.
Even at their age they know how precious Clear Creek is.
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